Wednesday, 20 January 2010

Lies About National-Anarchism

Lies About National-Anarchism

If you have found this page and believe National-Anarchism is an Oxymoron, Fascist, Nazi, etc, etc, then please read this whole page, and the linked conversations, and if you are intelligent, open-minded, and unbiased - you will learn that the above epithets are completely false and do not stand up to scrutiny. Thank you.


"Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood."- Henry Louis Mencken

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes."Mark Twain

"Our wretched species is so made that those who walk on the well-trodden path always throw stones at those who are showing a new road." - Voltaire

The lies spread about National-Anarchism are staggering. Not in the way that they are numerous, but in the context that they are so blatantly false and penned by those without the slightest understanding of the subject matter, have in no way read the material or have a significant lack of intelligence. Either these lies are spread because of this or it is done on purpose. If the latter, then I feel extremely embarrassed by those spreading them as any study of the N-A perspective clearly tears their lies apart to anyone with the ability for independent study and objective and rational reasoning.

For those genuinely interested in finding out the truth about National-Anarchism or just to understand the depths the liars go to, then firstly please read the articles and recommended reading material.

Secondly, view the below threads on the official National-Anarchist Facebook group:

* A few words about the manner in which National-Anarchism presents itself...
* Refuting 'National-Anarchism = Wanna-be "anarchists" and discussed in another group here.
Fallacies in the youtube video - 'National-Anarchism'.
* An interesting discussion
* Read 'A Life In The Political Wilderness'.
* Lies about fascist infiltration.
* N-A discussion on views on fascism here and here.
* Another discussion on race
* An interesting conversation on Will I Be Accepted in National-Anarchism?

RACE
Although we categorize the below discussions under the heading of 'Race', it is highly recommended that all of the above topics be read thoroughly too as they also concern race.


On the race question. (although it must be pointed out this is cleared up in the articles section [for exmple here (also here), here (also here), here (also here), here (also here), here (also here), it is also extensively covered in the Manifesto here] and the various links above).
With regard to the erroneous comments which have been made in relation to N-A's...
Another attack exposed.
Antifa fascist lies
Responding to the lies
New interesting discussions on how N-A can reach awider audience as opposed to the perspective that it appeals to only white nationalists.
* National-Anarchist people of colour.
* New interesting discussions on how N-A can reach a wider audience as opposed to the perspective that it appeals to only white nationalists - http://attackthesystem.com/2012/01/17/attack-the-system-anarchism-secession-and-the-relevance-of-these-to-the-alternative-right/#comment-47291 and  http://www.facebook.com/groups/128311370561876/283115408414804/ I highly recommend reading the discussions above in full. Although the FB link above in the NATA-NY facebook group relates to an article that was posted here earlier by Hildr - http://www.facebook.com/groups/119522234768392/283682395019041/ i would say if you want to discuss that particular article, in the interests of neatness, use the above link, but thats just my opinion. I think I have OCD when it comes to neatness but I do it out of the view that I like things to be easily accessible for myself and others. Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
Soapparently national anarchists are all violent racists who want to kill allnon-White Christians…

Allegations on National-Anarchism

The BR Conversations



"To be conscious that you are ignorant is a great step to knowledge." - Benjamin Disraeli

“If we choose, we can live in a world of comforting illusion.” - Noam Chomsky

“The measure of the state's success is that the word anarchy frightens people, while the word state does not.”
- Joseph Sobran

“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.” - Noam Chomsky

“Mankind are governed more by their feelings than by reason.” - Samuel Adams


See also Is National-Anarchism An Oxymoron? - National-Anarchism In A Nutshell

Once you have read the above article, then see the below...


National-Anarchism, Tradition, & Revolution: An Interview With Troy Southgate
3) Could you elaborate on what National Anarchism is and the goals of this cause?
I began to embrace Anarchism during the mid- to late-1990s, once I stumbled across the work of Richard Hunt and Alternative Green magazine. Richard had produced a booklet called 'The Natural Society' and, slightly later, a full-length book entitled 'To End Poverty: The Starvation of the Periphery By the Core'. I certainly didn't agree with all of Richard's ideas, but I was introduced to some of the main principles of Green Anarchism - as well as some of the original thinkers such as Bakunin, Proudhon and Kropotkin - and Richard struck me as a very open-minded and fair individual who was prepared to speak to members of the 'Far Right' for the first time. I wouldn't describe myself as Left or Right, but given that I am often wrongly described as a 'fascist' by my detractors, this was a very positive step and whilst he did not support our stance on racial separatism, Richard appreciated that we were genuine decentralists and that we shared many of the same ideals. When Richard suffered a stroke and became too ill to continue with Alternative Green, I took over as Editor for several issues and that demonstrates how much trust there was between us. Eventually, I launched a current known as the National-Anarchists that attempted - for the first time - to combine the ideas of Anarchism and racial separatism. I think we occupy a rather unique place in world politics, not least when you consider that those on the Left dismiss us as 'Fascists' and those on the Right describe us as 'Left-wing'. National-Anarchists are completely opposed to the kind of short-sighted dogma that one finds on both sides of the political spectrum. But we are genuine in our Anarchism, just as we have retained our belief in racial separatism. Those on the Left believe that National-Anarchism is some kind of oxymoron, but it is worth pointing out that the term 'national' originally related to tribes and ethnicity and not to the existing borders of the modern nation-states. In short, therefore, we are opposed to nationalism because it is fundamentally statist. True nations, as far as we are concerned, are comprised of people from the same ethnicity. You certainly can't say that about contemporary England, Germany, France and Italy. The globalist estblishment is constantly redefining these nations, for obvious reasons, but I would ask how they can be considered to be national entities when Europe has been subjected to mass immigration for over sixty years. The nations of the future, we believe, will be self-sufficient village-communities which combine mono-racialism with firm Anarchist principles. More information about National-Anarchism can be found at http://www.national-anarchist.net/ and we also have a group on Facebook. 

"And I'm not a 'nationalist', either, because I reject the borders and boundaries of Europe because they are based on citizenship and no longer on ethnicity. Is England English? Is France French?" – Troy Southgate 
"it is worth pointing out that the term 'national' originally related to tribes and ethnicity and not to the existing borders of the modern nation-states. In short, therefore, we are opposed to nationalism because it is fundamentally statist. True nations, as far as we are concerned, are comprised of people from the same ethnicity. You certainly can't say that about contemporary England, Germany, France and Italy. The globalist estblishment is constantly redefining these nations, for obvious reasons, but I would ask how they can be considered to be national entities when Europe has been subjected to mass immigration for over sixty years. The nations of the future, we believe, will be self-sufficient village-communities which combine mono-racialism with firm Anarchist principles." – Troy Southgate


BG: You recently contributed a chapter to the book, 'National-Anarchism: Ideas and Concepts' by Black Front Press. So you're obviously a National-Anarchist? What appeals to you about that ideology?

VW: I certainly did and it was a great honour to be asked by Troy Southgate to offer my contribution. As to whether I am a National-Anarchist? Most definitely! What attracts me the most to the National-Anarchist Movement is that, to my mind at least, they are a manifestation of Anarchism in its purest form. The very fact that it is viewed with so much suspicion and, in many cases utter hatred, by both the Left and Right can only be an indication that we must be doing something right.

One of the most common accusations pointed at the N-AM by the supposed Anarchist community is that we are just Nazis playing "dress up" which is rather amusing, in a sense, as I consider this a wonderful case of projection really when one considers that most Anarchists are, in fact, little more than Marxists playing "dress up". This stems, mainly, from N-A's acceptance of the existence of race (backed up by science, no less, as well as common sense.) and its defence of the right to separate on racial grounds. This is due to one of the many false dichotomies that suffuse this modern Liberal Democracy, propounded by Cultural Marxism: The idea that one must either totally reject the very existence of race, despite all scientific evidence to the contrary, OR you are some kind of blood thirsty Nazi killing machine who hates anyone who is not of your particular racial group! That is, on examination, the same as saying that if a man, for instance, loves his wife he must utterly despise every other woman on the planet. Utter lunacy. It should also be pointed out, of course, that National-Anarchism not only supports the right of people to separate on racial grounds (including those who may wish to live in multi-racial communities) but also on cultural, religious and even sexual terms. Anarchism is, essentially, based on the concept of mutualism and freedom of association and, the very minute one starts dictating what is or is not respectable or reasonable grounds for starting up an Anarchist community... well... you have lost all right to call yourself an Anarchist.

Freedom, by its very definition, cannot come with provisos. Another factor that has lent itself to this particular accusation is that many within the N-AM have a background in what is, somewhat erroneously termed, the "Far Right". This is, of course, utterly true but it can also be said that many within the N-AM have a background in what is known as the "Far Left" also. Personally I am not interested in what somebody used to be! It is far more important to acknowledge what a person has become and N-AM offers, perhaps, a refuge for those who do not necessarily fit within the preconceived and comfortable pigeon holes that The State and its goons have created for us. N-AM is truly a movement that is "Beyond Left and Right". Ultimately, National-Anarchism has a vision for this world and that vision is a world in which all peoples, regardless of race, creed, culture, sexual persuasion, etc, can live in totally voluntary, self governing, self-sufficient communities with like minded people! Free to pursue their dreams and celebrate their own uniqueness without fear, persecution and, more importantly, the constant need to compromise their vision or constantly have to waste time reassuring the outsider that they are not a threat; endlessly having to justify their existence and, most important of all, it wishes to bring an end to the tyranny of the State. Sounds like paradise, no? Who could have a problem with that? Unfortunately those who wear the mask of "freedom" seem to have a really big problem with this idea. The problem? It isn't their particular brand of "freedom" we are offering the world and they will not rest until we have all become enslaved by their own particular brand of "freedom". I've lost count of the times I have heard people say, on the one hand, "down with the New World Order!", "death to Globalism!", "stop the One World Government!" and then, with the other, say such things as "wouldn't it be great if the world was as one? One race! One creed!" Personally I call that insanity. I'd also go as far as to call that genocide.

1 comment:

  1. You is "wrongly described as a 'fascist' by my detractors...Eventually, I launched a current known as the National-Anarchists that attempted - for the first time - to combine the ideas of Anarchism and racial separatism."

    Oh, you mean fascism?

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